COMMENTS
Dharmesh - would it be possible to get a couple of the URL's that went up, for examination purposes, either in the post or in private?
Thanks.
MIchael - Here are a couple examples:
www.leads.com 6 to 7
www.GotuitMedia.com 5 to 6
www.DreamHost.com 7 to 8
- Mike Volpe
Mike, thank you. I'm not sure on the others, but DH at least seems strange. I cannot remember if the root domain was a PR8 before or not, but the blog hasn't had it's inner pages (the ones I would expect, anyways) updated, which would be odd if this really is an update.
The snapshot for the current export (for now, anyways) is somewhere between July 3rd and July 5th of this year... yet this post is still in in-between status (PR0, above gray yet not showing what it should yet):
http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/07/
So, I don't know. Weird.
No problem. Yeah, this "update" seems to be flowing out of the Google servers really slow. I know of a couple sites that have grown inbound links by 100x, and would HAVE to get a PR increase, but no change yet. And others that I would actually expect a decrease, but also no change yet.
A hunch from a few of us at HubSpot is that Google is trying to downplay the importance of PR and is trying to make updates less timely and less predictable, so that it is harder to understand their algorithm, and people will stop relying on PR as a measure of a site's value (for selling text links for example...).
As of April, I was PR 5. I then changed my web address and then (rather expectedly) dropped to zero.
However, I'm still stuck at zero and I'm not getting indexed as often.
Bizarrely, I'm getting more search traffic from Google.
Figure that out...
Other speculation that I read was that "blog networks" were hit because blogs within networks link to each other. I understood that reciprocal links were less valuable anyways. Maybe google hadn't factored "blog network interlinking" into the algorithm until everyone and their brother started one? Is website grader able to determine link patterns and whether a link is reciprocal? Maybe there's a correlation there?
I am guessing website grader doesn't detect/store whether a website sells paid links. It'd be an interesting factor to correlate too.
Update... looks like GotuitMedia.com has fallen from a 6 back to a 5...
We have seen one site loose indexed rankings for keywords. All flash site with just Meta data and 120 links. I thinks the time has come where they are also factoring links related to page content. All other sites seemed to only change a position or two. None have text link ads.
I also noticed that updates are constantly occuring without notice. So it is really hard to see what is being changed. But page rank is a small part of it.
pagerank was never something to worry about since it doesn't affect serps but merely correlates with them.
So unless you run a directory(or sell links to webmasters not aware or able to understand this) you have nothing to fear for in the end all the big websites will continue to flourish as the always did and better if they gained links.
Thanks for the report though it provides good info on their algo update :)
regards,
Jest Staffel
I respect that Google continues to modify their algorithm to reward those of us that are honorable with how and where we acquire links and how we structure the details of our sites. I appreciate Hubspot's forums where we can share the available intelligence about Google.
Hi.
My blog's PR increased from 3 to 4. But I do not understand why this happened, maybe just some time helped.
I do not sell/buy any links, or have any advertising in the site.
A few of my sites have seen an increase in their PR.
http://easyctutorials.com went from 0 to 3
http://sanctifiedstudios.com went from 0 to 5
the google PR really affect a couple of my website. the ranks dropped and until now the google crawler really CRAWLS unlike what it used to be.
very frustrating for me especially my bank account statements
website grader is not picking up the new PR. I have tried every day for past 4 days, and its still showing old PR.
This last update has surprised me immensely, i have worked as a seo for a while & 8 domains that i have recently registered (about 2-3 moths ago) have seen some dramatic changes for instance
cbarker.ws PR0 to PR4
cbarker.info PR0 to PR3
Ctb29resonate.co.uk - PR0 to PR3
Resonate-hq.co.uk - PR0 to PR3
Resonate.me.uk - PR0 to PR4
Res0nate.co.uk - PR0 to PR1
Webstandards101.org PR0 to PR3
Web2innovation.net - PR0 to PR 3
Question, Why my site, http://helpdeskgeek.com does show 0 pagerank on websitegrader.com and on the google toolbar shows that has a PR4? is my pagerank surreal?
Nelson, email me your contact information and I will do some research on your site and try to find the difference. dtyre@hubspot.com
The web site grader is still not picking up NEW PR. Its more than 10 days now.
@John Doe, @Nelson and @james -
From your comments we discovered some isolated cases in Website Grader reporting a different Page Rank than the Google Toolbar. We're working on a solution now. If you want to help, please email me examples (with URL, PR on Website Grader and PR on Toolbar) to mvolpe@hubspot.com
Thanks!
I think Google's actions left many people with big question marks. Many good websites got a decrease from 7 to 3, or from 8 to 5, so - one must think of the reasons.
Hi
I have some awareness of PR and the way google search results are listed but I have a site,
www.brandhug.com which is a new site and we have been trying to understand more about the way search results are moving, I think it is clear that for shopping sites such as ours organic search results are important but offline marketing is as important.
Many good websites have moved up and down the organic results since the latest changes so it is clear that some other factors are being used.
Nick
I respect that Google continues to modify their algorithm to reward those of us that are honorable with how and where we acquire links and how we structure the details of our sites. I appreciate Hubspot's forums where we can share the available intelligence about Google
I have no problem with Google updating its algorithm- and if your site went down in PageRank, it's not Google's fault. It's just a few pixels on your computer screen, for goodness sake